Agnes de Kyme (1141-c1214)

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Lady Agnes de Kyme was born 1141 in Sotby, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom to Simon de Kyme (c1094-1162) and Agnes de Lindsey (1094-) and died circa 1214 Weston-under-Lizard, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom of unspecified causes. She married Hamo de Weston (1137-1214) 1161 ^JL in Weston-under-Lizard, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom. She married Herbert de Orreby (c1140-c1180) 1166 ^JL in Hagnaby, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom.

Siblings

Children

Offspring of Hamo de Weston (1137-1214) and Agnes de Kyme^¢
Name	Birth	Death	Joined with
John de Weston (1169-)
Robert de Weston (1171-)
William de Weston (c1175-)
Hamo Hayes de Weston (1180-)
Matilda de Weston (c1210-)

Offspring of Herbert de Orreby (c1140-c1180) and Agnes de Kyme^¢
Name	Birth	Death	Joined with
Philip de Orreby (c1160-c1230)	1167 Alvanley, Cheshire West and Chester, England, United Kingdom	1230 Chester, Cheshire West and Chester, England, United Kingdom	Emma de Coventre (c1165-1230) Alice de Baumville (c1165-)
Hugh de Orreby (c1169-)
John de Orreby (1170-)
Richard de Orreby (c1172-)
Thomas de Orreby (c1173-)
William de Orreby (c1175-)
Robert de Orreby (c1177-)
Herbert de Orreby (1178-)
John de Orreby (1205-)
(Daughters)

Residences

Footnotes (including sources)

‡ General

Geni gave her father 7 ancestors, her mother 1,356, and her first husband (who was born and died at Weston, Staffordshire) 8.
https://www.geni.com/people/Agnes-de-Kyme-Lady/6000000003827885822 and linked pages

₪ Wedding

Weston Park and surroundings were originally owned by the de Weston family.

¢ Children

William's birth year is estimated; Matilda's is from Geni and seems too late to be likely.

¢² Children 2

"Sir Phillip Orreby; John de Orreby; Richard de Orreby; Herbert de Orreby; Sir John de Orreby; Hugh de Orreby; Thomas de Orreby; William de Orreby; Robert de Orreby and Daughters? de Orreby"
The following was sent to all nineteen managers of Lady Agnes's Geni page:

"Stated to have married Weston about 1161 and de Orreby about 1166. But children to Weston all after the second marriage - in 1169, 1171, c1175, 1180, and c1210 (at age about 59!) and children to Orreby in c1160 (before any marriage), c1170, c1172, c1173, c1175, c1177, 1178, and (about 25 years after Orreby died?) 1205, not to mention an Orreby daughter or two squeezed in.

"Maybe we are dealing with two different women here? And a few extreme-and-probably-wrong birth years and maybe a too-early year for the Weston marriage.

"I hope some of you managers can find the time to review the documentation/sources."

Robin Patterson