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No reason why we couldn't have pages for old and new divisions. [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 09:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 
No reason why we couldn't have pages for old and new divisions. [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 09:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
   
:I don't like counties for Australia, I don't think they ever had any administrative or social significance, except in land tenure (though I could be corrected here), certainly nothing like the role they seem to have in the USA. The smallest divisions of a state like New South Wales that I think could be useful are the regional ones, like "New England", "Northern Rivers", "Monaro" etc. Even then, looking at the genealogies I have, the main division is between "Sydney" and "Regional" (ie not Sydney). I am loathe to bother with categories below the state level in Australia. [[User:Thurstan|Thurstan]] 09:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
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I don't like counties for Australia, I don't think they ever had any administrative or social significance, except in land tenure (though I could be corrected here), certainly nothing like the role they seem to have in the USA. The smallest divisions of a state like New South Wales that I think could be useful are the regional ones, like "New England", "Northern Rivers", "Monaro" etc. Even then, looking at the genealogies I have, the main division is between "Sydney" and "Regional" (ie not Sydney). I am loathe to bother with categories below the state level in Australia.
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[[User:Thurstan|Thurstan]] 09:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 
::OK, maybe Brian Yap's relatives whose pages mention counties were a bit exceptional; I've not examined more than a few dozen of his thousands, and I've seen very few old Australian documents. In the absence of coherent cover of NSW regions in Wikipedia, please study and evaluate [http://www.dmoz.org/Regional/Oceania/Australia/New_South_Wales/Regions/ the fourteen regions defined by the Open Directory Project]. The 13 non-Sydney regions would have an average population about double that of the average U.S. county, which puts them well inside the same order of magnitude. (Using [[Local Government Area]]s of Sydney would give a similar average population there.) I've copied the ODP map but I'm not much of an image manipulator. [[Commons]] has some useful maps but apparently not full coverage. [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 13:25, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 
   
 
:::Yes, the ODP names sound like the sort of names I would use to answer the question "where did your ancestors live?".
 
:::Yes, the ODP names sound like the sort of names I would use to answer the question "where did your ancestors live?".

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