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==Robin's preliminary essay; introduction==
 
==Robin's preliminary essay; introduction==
I've talked recently about the subpages that are created for every county by the county genealogy templates (primarily [[Template:Navbox county2-en]] with discussion at [[Template talk:Navbox county1-en]]). They need subject-matter categories in addition to the county categories, so that searchers for specific names or other subjects that are not confined to a single county can find suitable groupings.
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I've talked recently about the subpages that are created for every county by the county genealogy templates (primarily [[Template:Navbox county2-en]]). They need subject-matter categories in addition to the county categories, so that searchers for specific names or other subjects that are not confined to a single county can find suitable groupings.
   
 
==List of their titles==
 
==List of their titles==
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===Others===
 
===Others===
 
Exceptions seem to include the following, listed with their displayed names, their actual subpage name suffixes, and my suggested categories (with explanations):
 
Exceptions seem to include the following, listed with their displayed names, their actual subpage name suffixes, and my suggested categories (with explanations):
*Migrations and settlements, /migrations, "Category:Settlements in County, State" ("Settlements in" are an established category, for each [[U.S. state]] and several countries, and "settlement" has some implication of immigration)
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*Migrations and settlements, /migrations, "Settlements in County, State" ("Settlements in" are an established category, for each [[U.S. state]] and several countries, and "settlement" has some implication of immigration)
*Before 1700, /Before 1700, "Category:Before 1700 in County, State"
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*Before 1700, /Before 1700, "Before 1700 in County, State"
*1700-1749, /1700-1749, "Category:1700-1749 in County, State"
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*1700-1749, /1700-1749, "1700-1749 in County, State"
 
*(''and so on for all the "Daily life" group; but see below'')
 
*(''and so on for all the "Daily life" group; but see below'')
*[County, State] links, /links, "Category:Websites about County, State" (Using "of" would apply to only a couple of official sites, whereas we will be including sites based elsewhere such as GenWeb and [[Cyndi's List]])
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*[County, State] links, /links, "Websites about County, State" (Using "of" would apply to only a couple of official sites, whereas we will be including sites based elsewhere such as GenWeb and [[Cyndi's List]])
 
*Businesses, /businesses, maybe "in"?
 
*Businesses, /businesses, maybe "in"?
*Cemeteries, /cemeteries, "Category:Cemeteries in County, State" (as we have for many already)
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*Cemeteries, /cemeteries, "Cemeteries in County, State" (as we have for many already)
 
*Queries, /queries, - ''see subsection below''
 
*Queries, /queries, - ''see subsection below''
 
===Time periods===
 
===Time periods===
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[[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 14:00, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 
[[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 14:00, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 
==Do we really want subpages instead of ordinary pages?==
 
Since studying the UK and US models, writing the middle paragraph under "Time periods" above, creating [[Template:Navbox Ausdiv]] for Australia, and reading some earlier pages, I've been steadily moving towards the idea that the creation of subpages is not the best way. As the "People" row produces categories, I can't think of a reason why the other rows should have to produce subpages. Ordinary article-style page names with the standard sort of word order might be just as easy to create and less off-putting to users, as well as being slightly easier to categorise (by hand or by bot).
 
 
Compare:
 
#[[McCormick County, South Carolina/cemeteries]]
 
#[[Cemeteries in McCormick County, South Carolina]] or [[Cemeteries in McCormick County, South Carolina, USA]]
 
The number 2 options are each a plain English article name and will be very easy to categorise: just put "Category:" in front and "|*" at the end.
 
 
In March this year after catching up with all of the new county stuff [[User:PhloxBot/_Proposals#cemeteries_by_state|I asked Phlox]] about that very subject. In November 2007 he had made the original plain-English page into a redirect to the subpage, but I don't think that that ends the matter. Can anyone (even the absent Phlox) see real advantages in the subpage alternative?
 
 
[[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 14:20, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 
   
 
==Responses==
 
==Responses==

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