View source for Forum:Data entry without using Form:Person

[[category:forms help]][[Category:Editing help]]
{{Forumheader|Help desk}}
==Problem==
There is sometimes a problem with [[Form:Person]], which we hope to fix within a day or two of becoming aware of it. 

The bottom sections of this page will, however, always be useful for people wanting to add a few parameters to an existing page (as suggested on [[Help:Upgrading old-style person articles]], which links to this). 

==Example person page==
Try this simple version, taken straight from [[Demo Person]]. (People who have been using their own may feel inspired to add helpful comments, for the benefit of less experienced users. Thanks to [[User:Lanica]] for inspiring me to start this page.) — [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] [[User talk:Robin Patterson|(Talk)]] 03:51, June 27, 2010 (UTC) - amended — [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] [[User talk:Robin Patterson|(Talk)]] 04:37, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

:Note that you can save time by copying the filled templates from a sibling, parent, or child. [[User:Rtol|rtol]] 05:20, June 27, 2010 (UTC) --- <small>unless the new person will use several more fields. — [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] [[User talk:Robin Patterson|(Talk)]] 14:26, June 29, 2010 (UTC)</small>

'''When you want to add more data to an existing page, you can copy any whole line from below into the page.''' The order of lines is not important as long as they are all within the right template (i.e. the things that have curly brackets at start and finish). But keeping to the order listed below will make things as easy as possible for later edits.  --- Robin Patterson ([[User talk:Robin Patterson|Talk to me]]) 07:03, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

::I add a gallery directly to the page instead of a separate tab via the sensor. Is there a Familypedia standard to this or is it personal preference? Which is more recent? Tabs or galleries? [[User:Lanica|Lanica]] 16:58, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

:::Ah - gallery versus "Pictures" tab. Galleries have been part of Wikia for most of its existence. The pictures tab is fairly new (and a trifle complex); I wouldn't bother with one unless I had more pictures than an article could comfortably hold. — [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] [[User talk:Robin Patterson|(Talk)]] 14:26, June 29, 2010 (UTC)


'''Fairly clean version''', which may lose most of its unused parameters as soon as it is published:

<pre> <!-- do not delete any curly brackets or vertical bars -->
{{Showfacts person
|given_name= <!-- (compulsory field) -->
|middle_name= 
|surname= <!-- (compulsory field; may say "Unknown") -->
|sex=F
|father= Père (-)
|mother= Mère (-)
|skills= 
|familysearch_afn=
|joined_with= Spouse1 (-)+Spouse2 (-)+...
|image= (omit "File:" prefix)
|image_caption= 
|short_name= <!-- (compulsory field, preferably including birth surname) -->
|notes= <!-- Notes -->
|sources= <!-- Source(s) -->
|contributors= <!-- (wiki user names) -->
|birth_year=
|birth_month= <!-- (number) -->
|birth_day=
|birth_date-approx= <!-- "c" or "bef" or "aft" -->
|birth_street= <!-- Other place, e.g. hospital or church -->
|birth_locality= Locality
|birth_county= Comté
|birth_nation-subdiv1= Département / "state" / UK "country"
|birth_nation= Nation
|birth_notes=
|birth_sources=
|death_year=
|death_month= <!-- (number) -->
|death_day=
|death_date-approx=
|death_street=
|death_locality=
|death_county=
|death_nation-subdiv1=
|death_nation=
|death causes=
|death_notes=
|death_sources=
|ifmarried-g1=true
|wedding1_year=
|wedding1_month= <!-- (number) -->
|wedding1_day=
|wedding1_date-approx=
|wedding1_street=
|wedding1_locality= (Locality of first marriage)
|wedding1_county=
|wedding1_nation-subdiv1=
|wedding1_nation=
|wedding1_notes=
|wedding1_sources=
|baptism_year=
|baptism_month=  <!-- (number) -->
|baptism_day=
|baptism_date-approx=
|baptism_street=
|baptism_locality=
|baptism_county=
|baptism_nation-subdiv1=
|baptism_nation=
|baptism_notes=
|baptism_sources=
|ifmarried-g2=true
|wedding2_year=
|wedding2_month=  <!-- (number) -->
|wedding2_day=
|wedding2_date-approx=
|wedding2_street=
|wedding2_locality=
|wedding2_county=
|wedding2_nation-subdiv1=
|wedding2_nation=
|wedding2_notes=
|wedding2_sources=
|ifmarried-g3=true
|remains_year=
|remains_month= (number)
|remains_day=
|remains_date-approx=
|remains_street=
|remains_locality=
|remains_county=
|remains_nation-subdiv1=
|remains_nation=
|remains_notes=
|remains_sources= <!-- source -->
|globals={{get globals}}
}}
{{Showfacts biography}}
<!-- this space is good for narrative and other images, though the children box may get pushed above it initially -->

{{siblings}}
{{Showfacts children <!-- "g1 is the group from the first listed spouse or partner; later numbers correspondingly -->
|children-g1= (join names with plus signs, giving each name a birth year if possible)
|children-g1_sources= <!-- source -->
|children-g1_notes= 
|children-g2= 
|children-g2_sources= <!-- source -->
|children-g2_notes= 
<!-- adapt for third and subsequent partners -->}}
{{showfacts awards}}{{showfacts journeys}}{{showfacts residences}}{{showfacts workhistory}}
{{showfacts military}}{{showfacts religious}}{{showfacts community}}
<!-- you can also add your own narrative, images, etc, in this space, to go below the "children" box, and move some around later -->
{{footer}}

</pre>

----
The following version has more detail (and most of us use it little if at all); it looks messy if you leave most of the parameters alone:
<pre> <!-- do not delete any curly brackets or vertical bars -->
{{Showfacts person
|given_name=Prénom
|middle_name=
|surname=Nom de famille
|sex=F
|father=Père ()
|mother=Mère ()
|skills=Job
|familysearch_afn=
|joined_with=Spouse1 ()+Spouse2 ()
|ifmarried-g1=true
|image=
|short_name=Nom abrégé
|long_name=General Sir John Brown, BA (Oxon), MP
|notes=Informations générales - Note(s)
|sources=Source(s)
|contributors=Robin Patterson
|birth_year=950
|birth_month=1
|birth_day=1
|birth_date-approx=bef
|birth_street=Rue/Avenue/routière; par exemple: "Napoleon Avenue" 	 
|birth_locality=Localité de naissance
|birth_county=Comté
|birth_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État"
|birth_nation=Nation
|birth_notes=note
|birth_sources=source
|death_year=999
|death_month=1
|death_day=2
|death_date-approx=c
|death_street=Napoleon Avenue
|death_locality=Sea
|death_county=Comté
|death_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État"
|death_nation=Nation
|death_causes=Cause(s)
|death_notes=note
|death_sources=source
|wedding1_year=997
|wedding1_month=9
|wedding1_day=9
|wedding1_date-approx=c
|wedding1_street=
|wedding1_locality=Localité of first marriage
|wedding1_county=Comté
|wedding1_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État" (we should have Nation and "Other places" on this form too)
|wedding1_nation=
|wedding1_notes=note
|wedding1_sources=source
|baptism_year=991
|baptism_month=1
|baptism_day=1
|baptism_date-approx=c
|baptism_street=
|baptism_locality=Localité
|baptism_county=Comté
|baptism_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État"; form should have "Nation" too
|baptism_nation=
|baptism_notes=note
|baptism_sources=source
|ifmarried-g2=true
|wedding2_year=998
|wedding2_month=1
|wedding2_day=1
|wedding2_date-approx=aft
|wedding2_street=
|wedding2_locality=Localité
|wedding2_county=Comté
|wedding2_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État"
|wedding2_nation=
|wedding2_notes=note
|wedding2_sources=source
|remains_year=999
|remains_month=12
|remains_day=2
|remains_date-approx=aft
|remains_street=Rue/Avenue/routière
|remains_locality=Localité de Reste / enterrement / incinération / les funérailles
|remains_county=Comté
|remains_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État"
|remains_nation=Nation
|remains_notes=note
|remains_sources=source
|globals={{get globals}}
}}
{{Showfacts biography}}
<!-- this area is best for full biography with more photos, though the "children" box usually gets placed above it initially -->
{{siblings}}
{{Showfacts children
|children-g1=Enfant, Groupe familial-1+kid number 2+baby sis
|children-g1_sources=source
|children-g1_notes=
|children-g2=
|children-g2_sources=
|children-g2_notes= note - at present we need to do third family, and beyond, separately without form edit
}}
{{showfacts awards}}{{showfacts journeys}}{{showfacts residences}}{{showfacts workhistory}}
{{showfacts military}}{{showfacts religious}}{{showfacts community}}
<!-- you can add your own narrative, images, etc, in this space, and move some around later -->
{{footer}}


</pre>
{{seealso|project:model advanced form}}