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:(''Opening contribution copied (subject to tiny edits) from my talk page. --- Robin Patterson ([[User talk:Robin Patterson|Talk to me]])''}
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:(''Opening contribution copied (subject to tiny edits) from my talk page. --- Robin Patterson ([[User talk:Robin Patterson|Talk to me]])''}
Articles on members of a family are tagged in a category for the family name, e.g. Category:Smith family. However there are inconsistencies. In some categories family starts with a capital F, in others with a lower case f, i.e. you could have Category:Smith family and Category:Miller Family.
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Articles on members of a family are tagged in a category for the family name, e.g. Category:Smith family. However there are inconsistencies. In some categories family starts with a capital F, in others with a lower case f, i.e. you could have Category:Smith family and Category:Miller Family.
   
 
If you would like to have a unified system, it would be wise to do so while there are still relatively few such categories.
 
If you would like to have a unified system, it would be wise to do so while there are still relatively few such categories.
   
You could take following decisions:
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You could take one of the following decisions:
   
 
#Leave things as they are, not minding the inconsistency. No further action would then be necessary.
 
#Leave things as they are, not minding the inconsistency. No further action would then be necessary.
 
#Prefer a unified approach with one of the two alternatives which should be generally applied. In this case, the categories which do not comply with the recommended solution should be changed accordingly. As far as the old unrecommended categories are concerned you could advise that the old, incorrect version be deleted, or that a categoryredirect label be posted.
   
 
I have no preference but would like to know what I should do. Regards. Andrei Filotti [[User:Afil|Afil]] 01:26, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
#Prefer a unified approach with one of the two alternatives which should be generally applied. In this case, the categories which do not comply with the recommended solution should be changed accordingly. As far as the old unrecommended categories are concerned you could advise that the old, incorrect version be deleted, or that a categoryredirect label be posted.
 
   
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:I would say that here should not be a capital "f" in "family" there. Wikipedia and Wikia standard for category (and other page) names is "sentence case", where only proper nouns (e.g. Smith) are capitalized. So we should use {{T|Category redirect}} on the capitalized ones. (Incidentally, I don't encourage the creation of such categories. WHICH Smith family?? If Wikipedia has one we should, but unless it is very long it might be best redirected to the surname category.) --- Robin Patterson ([[User talk:Robin Patterson|Talk to me]]) 01:45, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
I have no preference but would like to know what I should do. Regards. Andrei Filotti [[User:Afil|Afil]] 01:26, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
:I would say that here should not be a capital "f" in "family" there. Wikipedia and Wikia standard for category (and other page) names is "sentence case", where only proper nouns (e.g. Smith) are capitalized. So we should use {{T|Category redirect}} on the capitalized ones. (Incidentally, I don't encourage the creation of such categories. WHICH Smith family?? If Wikipedia has one we should, but unless it is very long it might be best redirected to the surname category.) --- Robin Patterson ([[User talk:Robin Patterson|Talk to me]]) 01:45, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
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:More and more of them appearing?? I repeat my above concerns. If WP has such a category, OK (and if it doesn't then don't create one); but we should use {{T|alsoWP}} at the top (as we should do with almost any category that matches WP unless we have a source template linking to it) and we should have a {{T|seealso}} to the surname category and/or the article (as well as having the category in the surname category). -- [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] ([[User talk:Robin Patterson|Talk]]) 11:45, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

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(Opening contribution copied (subject to tiny edits) from my talk page. --- Robin Patterson (Talk to me)}

Articles on members of a family are tagged in a category for the family name, e.g. Category:Smith family. However there are inconsistencies. In some categories family starts with a capital F, in others with a lower case f, i.e. you could have Category:Smith family and Category:Miller Family.

If you would like to have a unified system, it would be wise to do so while there are still relatively few such categories.

You could take one of the following decisions:

  1. Leave things as they are, not minding the inconsistency. No further action would then be necessary.
  2. Prefer a unified approach with one of the two alternatives which should be generally applied. In this case, the categories which do not comply with the recommended solution should be changed accordingly. As far as the old unrecommended categories are concerned you could advise that the old, incorrect version be deleted, or that a categoryredirect label be posted.

I have no preference but would like to know what I should do. Regards. Andrei Filotti Afil 01:26, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

I would say that here should not be a capital "f" in "family" there. Wikipedia and Wikia standard for category (and other page) names is "sentence case", where only proper nouns (e.g. Smith) are capitalized. So we should use {{Category redirect}} on the capitalized ones. (Incidentally, I don't encourage the creation of such categories. WHICH Smith family?? If Wikipedia has one we should, but unless it is very long it might be best redirected to the surname category.) --- Robin Patterson (Talk to me) 01:45, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
More and more of them appearing?? I repeat my above concerns. If WP has such a category, OK (and if it doesn't then don't create one); but we should use {{alsoWP}} at the top (as we should do with almost any category that matches WP unless we have a source template linking to it) and we should have a {{seealso}} to the surname category and/or the article (as well as having the category in the surname category). -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 11:45, January 5, 2013 (UTC)