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==Way forward?==
 
==Way forward?==
 
Bill is too kind? The alleged "authority" (who can't find "hardover" or "hard-over" in the Concise Oxford Dictionary and who can be marvellously neutral because he has never been in a country that has [[SSN]]s of that sort) '''invites Chad and Zeph to draft some recommendations about [[SSN]]s and the [[SSDI]]''' on [[project:Social Security numbers]]. We can put it in [[:category:policy]] as well as [[:category:SSDI]] and [[:category:privacy]] so that Zeph's newbies can see that we discourage use of [[SSN]]s (maybe even for people who have died if they were born under 100 years ago?). Most of us, however, will not be policing contributions, so that Aabh can probably sneak a few marginal cases in, for good reasons, if he doesn't draw attention to them. [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 13:52, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 
Bill is too kind? The alleged "authority" (who can't find "hardover" or "hard-over" in the Concise Oxford Dictionary and who can be marvellously neutral because he has never been in a country that has [[SSN]]s of that sort) '''invites Chad and Zeph to draft some recommendations about [[SSN]]s and the [[SSDI]]''' on [[project:Social Security numbers]]. We can put it in [[:category:policy]] as well as [[:category:SSDI]] and [[:category:privacy]] so that Zeph's newbies can see that we discourage use of [[SSN]]s (maybe even for people who have died if they were born under 100 years ago?). Most of us, however, will not be policing contributions, so that Aabh can probably sneak a few marginal cases in, for good reasons, if he doesn't draw attention to them. [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 13:52, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 
:"Hard-Over" is an americanism, I suspect. The term probably derives from US Navy slang, for making a sharp turn---as when the helmsman is directed to turn the ship's wheel "hard-over". From that it took on the implications of a strong position being taken. My sense was that you were fairly "hard over" on the use of SSN's. That's not a criticism, only an observation based on what you had already said. As a policy position, I think the view appropriate and propert, (ie, "don't place SSN's on the site") though I'm not quite so "hardover". I don't think you should place SSN on the site on general principle, but if the person is already deceased, I can't figure out how it would matter. But then, I suppose that someone with ill-intent could steal the identity of a dead person, especiallly since they aren't going to complain. Might make a problem for the heirs, though. So I think its not a good idea. And I agree, lets let those who are most concerned draft the policy. [[User:WMWillis|Bill]] 15:40, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 

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