Descent from Edward I of England[]
Marianne Dillow (a frequent contributor to soc.gen.medieval) says the "Eltonhead line goes to Edward I, King of England". It's part of her ancestry. Robin Patterson 09:17, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
- Added note:
This has been modified as there is one generation in question with Eltonhead and Savage to Richard I. As of this date, March 21,2009, this has not been proven one way or the other. Research continues but Martha Eltonhead through her mother Ann Sutton that married Richard Eltonhead does go to Henry II, King of England according to Plantagenet Ancestry, 2005, by Douglas Richardson. The lineage is as follows:
The lineage of Eltonhead Conway to Henry II[]
- (I am copying this to a separate page, which should be the only place you edit it in future. You can just link to it from every page that connects; but in case you want it displayed on some pages I am making it a template. -— Robin Patterson (Talk) 12:29, 24 March 2009 (UTC))
Line of ascendancy to Henry II, King of England: correct (March 2009) lineage of Martha Eltonhead and her daughter Eltonhead Conway. contributed by Marianne Dillow, given to her by Douglas Richardson, author of "Plantagenet Ancestry, 2004" and "Magna Carta Ancestry", 2005.
Henry II, King of England, with a mistress, Ida de Tosny.
William Longespée, Knt., 3rd Earl of Salisbury, married Ela of Salisbury.
Stephen Longespée, Knt., of King’s Sutton, Northamptonshire, married Emeline de Ridelisford.
Ela Longespée married Roger la Zouche, Knt., of Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire.
Alan la Zouche, Knt., Lord Zouche, married Eleanor de Segrave.
Maud la Zouche married Robert de Holland, 1st Baron Holand.
Maud (or Matilda) de Holand married Thomas de Swinnerton, Knt., 3rd Lord Swinnerton.
Robert de Swinnerton, Knt., 4th Lord Swinnerton, married Elizabeth de Beke.
Maud Swinnerton married John Savage, Knt., of Clifton, Cheshire.
Mary Savage married (as his 1st wife) William Stanley, Esq., of Hooton (in Wirral), Cheshire.
William Stanley, Esq., of Hooton (in Wirral), Cheshire, married Alice Hoghton (or Houghton).
William Stanley, Knt., of Hooton (in Wirral), Cheshire, married Agnes Grosvenor.
William Stanley, Knt., Hooton (in Wirral), Cheshire, married Anne Harington.
Peter Stanley, Esq., of Moor Hall (in Aughton), Lancashire, married Cecily Tarleton.
Anne Stanley married Edward Sutton, Gent., of Knowsley (in Huyton), Lancashire and Hall House (in Rushton Spencer), Staffordshire.
Ann Sutton married Richard Eltonhead, Gent., of Eltonhead (in Prescot), Lancashire.
Martha Eltonhead married Edwin Conway, Gent., of Northampton and Lancaster Counties, Virginia.
Eltonhead Conway married Henry Thacker, sr.
- contributed by Marianne Dillow
Birth and marriage dates[]
Birth 1628 seems unlikely for a 1642 marriage and more unlikely for a 1640.
Even 1625 is a little late for a traditional 1640 wedding.
And which side of the Pond was the wedding?
Any real research out there?
— Robin Patterson (Talk) 12:50, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I invited Marianne Dillow to comment on the various birth years in relation to the two marriage years. She was clear about the birth year: 1628. — Robin Patterson (Talk) 02:27, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
A second Martha Eltonhead?[]
If we ever get a second one, we will need to give her page a distinctive name, linked from this one. This one is so well known that she deserves primacy in page naming, not just listing on a hndis page. — Robin Patterson (Talk) 01:55, June 18, 2010 (UTC)