Sasha Kopf's Celtic knot ring

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Please leave a message on my talk page if you think I may help with anything! Robin Patterson (talk) 17:54, November 29, 2018 (UTC)


Thank you for the details on my talk page. I will respond there so that the questions can be more easily seen --- Robin Patterson (Talk) 02:48, December 2, 2018 (UTC)


If "Onderwerp" means "under construction", you may like to redirect it to {{construction}}. If not, why is it at the top of an article as a red link? --- Robin Patterson (Talk) 04:06, December 2, 2018 (UTC)


Richard, your articles and page histories suggest to me that you are not using Form:Person. You add a category that is not appropriate, you add "NOTOC", which is now redundant, and you omit the siblings template. What is happening there? --- Robin Patterson (Talk) 04:18, December 2, 2018 (UTC)

I have created pages for the bottom two people on your KdG external source page. Very easy using the standard form. You may like to go to Elisabeth Maria Verbiest (1921-2008), click on her father's name in the infobox, and work your way up to link with the articles you already have. If you then create sensor pages for them, you will eventually see the "Order of Charlemagne" on each. --- Robin Patterson (Talk) 04:51, December 2, 2018 (UTC)


Please don't invent random categories. Wikipedia already has Category:Children of Charlemagne‎, which we can use. Thurstan (talk) 02:11, December 8, 2018 (UTC)

We also already have Category:Descendants of Charlemagne, so I ask you to removed your spurious category from all its pages. Thurstan (talk) 02:23, December 8, 2018 (UTC)