Sasha Kopf's Celtic knot ring

Haeremai, welcome, talofa, Willkommen, bienvenue, welkom[]

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Please leave a message on my talk page if you think I may help with anything! Afil (talk) 23:02, September 27, 2013 (UTC)

Why waste your time and ours with a third identity?[]

You can't see your complete contributions in one place. You have to do more work to list contributors of pages edited by two or more of your identities. Your number of total edits (at the top of this page and your user pages etc) looks less impressive than it should. Administrators have unnecessarily many "users" to talk to and help. Why bother? -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 03:58, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Cut out the question-marks[]

You are wasting your time and mine by including question-marks in parentheses with years of birth and death. They cannot be converted to workable page names. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 04:10, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Please re-read,_places,_or_surnames/Guidance#Form-filling - because even today you are still creating potential person-pages containing question-marks. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 04:53, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

Gov. John Haynes[]

I was hoping somebody could delet this page that I made some time ago. I want to recreate it as a "person page."

Seems to me like an unnecessary waste of work doing that. We have lots of pages that list descendants of a person, and they have their uses. Create a new person page in the normal way and copy some of the descendants to it if you like. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 08:15, December 5, 2013 (UTC)


Lion's wife was shown as "M", and one of her children is shown to be dying in a now "abolished" county in Greater London. I've fixed Mary's sex and made a couple of other edits, but you would get proper links sooner if you could get more things right at first try. For example, a "county" field needs the full county name (as shown on Wikipedia and here). Maybe it's time for you to take a minute or two to reread the main guidance page - Help:Starting pages for people, places, or surnames/Guidance - which you can find easily from the "Create article for person" menu at the top of most pages.

Keep up the good work!

-- Robin Patterson (Talk) 21:55, December 11, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I am still slower figuring out how all this stuff works. I wish I could learn how to do trees and descendant lists the proper way, but I have no idea how do really do that.
Automatically-generated tree and descendants pages are created with fewer than half a dozen clicks each. See the middle part of the guidance page, starting just after,_places,_or_surnames/Guidance#Form-filling
---- Robin Patterson (Talk) 12:34, December 12, 2013 (UTC)

Colonial America[]

It's good to see more work from you (though it would be better for the rest of us and maybe for you if you stuck to your main user name).

Another major contributor working on early Europeans in America is User:MainTour. Perhaps you two should talk to one another.

Kind regards. ---- Robin Patterson (Talk) 01:57, January 23, 2016 (UTC)


Hi Robin. I'm sorry for all of the different user names; I have been forgetting my paswords, but now I have one that I am sticking to. There are a few issues that I would like to bring up with that I have noticed lately.

Saving Pages[]

For some reason I have not been able to save a pages when I want to edit a page the normal way. The save button is not highlighted for some reason.

Person Pages[]

When I creat a person pages it will eithe save a page without anything really saved and/or when I click on a red link person page to create it, it a "Creat a new article" box will appear and only give me the option to "Add a Page," and will not give bring me to the 'Persons page."

Renaming Pages[]

When I rename a page it makes a duplicage of the persons "short name."

Responses on my talk page. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 01:39, November 13, 2016 (UTC)


Hello again, Quinn. I'm hoping to save you and others some editing time with this comment.

Please look at - changes made to one of your pages by Andrei, our second-most-prolific contributor.

Particularly note the reduction in categories relating to birth and death dates. That information is automatically collected and tabulated by our software from the data entered in forms. See, for example, most recent-centuries pages for years or days-of-year. We do have separate categories for "Born in "(year)" and "Died in (year)", but they are technically redundant since 2009 and should not be manually added to articles.

The other point is the treasurers category. I agree with Andrei that a category for Boston treasurers would be disproportionately small. However, I'm sure his alternative, Category:City and town treasurers in the United States, would be too big for individuals. See its talk page. I changed your two treasurers pages to Category:City and town treasurers in Massachusetts.

Kind regards. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 23:12, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Hello again; it's good to see you still adding material, though it really would help us if you could stick to a single user name (not a number).

Please now have a look at Talk: First families of Maryland and follow the category naming suggestions wherever you can. There is much time to be saved by using Wikipedia categories wherever practicable (and acknowledging them with the one-click icon so as to have an easy link to more material). Feel free to discuss inconsistencies when you find them.

Kind regards. --- Robin Patterson (Talk) 08:35, August 8, 2020 (UTC)